VA Tech "massacre"

[Triton X2]

YEP

[Big John]

Triton I don't know about other teens-20's but my son could without remorse, he was a Walter Reed as an OR/ER Tech in the Army and fought a guy in a parking lot over his wallet and the guy had a knife and cut my son but didn't get his wallet. He of course was military trained, 6ft 220 lbs, working out 4 times a day and could bench press a car sooooo. My daughter of 21 is like my wife all the times I worked with her to learn how to shoot, is not sure she could shoot someone.

[Outdoorsfool]

Shouldn't you be able to tell someone they can't carry a gun on your property or in your house even if they have been told by the government they can carry? It is a matter of whose rights get stepped on.

Now wait a minute...I think you're comparing apples to oranges in this situation. My property is MY property and I get to set the rules on my personal property. I will also defend it within my rights...either those granted me or those I feel I should have (read: stupid castle doctrine). I should not have a requirement to decide between fleeing my house/castle or defending it and potentially being charged as a criminal. However, school/government property does not belong to the school/government, as much as they'd like it to. It is public property owned by the taxpayers/citizens of this nation.



When we get into personal property opened up for the public's use and owner's use of the property for profit and personal gain I think laws closer to public property should apply, as opposed to those considering it personal property. Look at the current example of malls in the Central Missouri area now restricting people under a certain age from being in the mall after 7:00pm (or whatever it is) without an adult. Rules/regulations/policies in this country are getting stupid and out of hand. I will not patronize anyplace that wants a kid's $$ at 5:00 on Friday evening, but will kick him out at 7:30 because there's not an adult with him. Talk about cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[hunting170]

Big John said:
hunting170 Every employee opened their lunch boxes, bags, brief cases etc entering and exiting most factories do this as well.I have nothing to get over.

Okay, I get it now. The security guard asks the well-armed, disgruntled employee to open his lunch box, and the employee says "yes sir, you caught me red-handed. I have some guns that I was going to use to go postal on some people in here, but now I can`t because you caught me." You really are a dumbass.

Until our government grows a set, and starts taking action when they should, these things are going to happen. Authorities knew of this guy before he carried out this massacre, they knew of most of the towel heads involved in the 9/11 attack. This wait-and-see, innocent until proven guilty kind of mentality has done nothing but cost innocent people to lose their lives. Preventive maintenance works wonders.

[LadyAngler]

BJ~ Your spirit is impressive. I can't say I agree with your point of view, but I appreciate you debative approach. It's not easy to argue with my husband. What works for me is... just behave completely irrationally, storm about the house bare breasted and then start to cry. Good luck.





You asked a question... I have never shot a person, but I am 100% sure I could shoot any man, woman or child trying to kill me or innocent people around me.



I do agree with a point you made about attacking the shooter. However, I think during reload would be your only option. That's a maximum of 10-15 seconds to do your damage with your pencil or fire extingisher or whatever. I would think it would take a couple people to really stop him, though. I do believe that this prick was a coward and would have pee peed his little britches had people attacked him.

[PoisonSnake]

Yeah, I think we are all on the same page here to a certain extent. OF is a bit off of his rocker, but what's new with that?

[Outdoorsfool]

Yeah well, when it comes to comments from PS, I just consider the source. Given the dude can't dial a phone to save his life and probably had to check mapquest to find Cooper county.... On top of that, I'm 99.9999% sure he forgot how to drink a beer. A sober PS is going to be a boring PS, without all those tall tales.



You really should ask your wife if you can have your balls back at least ONE weekend a month. She can keep them in her purse the rest of the time.

[Big John]

La probably one person would have been sufficient to distract him so someone else could get to him but, it has do be a commitment by 2 people or one determined person and most of these kids don't have what it takes. My main problem among others is I am an "A type personality" you know what that is and for those who don't I must be in control all the time. As an "A type" I notice things that most people don't even think about, where the exits in a building are, how many men are in the room compared to the number of women, I am not comfortable in restaurants with more than one entrance (PS yes I am probably off my rocker too) however I also have been in a number of emergency situations and I am usually the one in the room doing what is necessary while others are standing with the "DAH...what do we do look on their face"

[Rafe Hollister]

Wow, BJ. You're my hero.

[Triton X2]

Set your goals high, Rafe.

[Rafe Hollister]

I have. When he's in a room, he notices how many men are there. Also, he likes to be in control.

[Warmouth]

I generally know how many boobies are in a room, and what the overal rating is for each set, as compared to the others.

[Big John]

That is "Boobie type personality" lol.

[Roscoe Dog]

I would hope you can tell how many boobies are in the room when they are bouncing around bare.

[Roscoe Dog]

You can do everything possible that you could think of doing to control a situation and have plans set but when something happens throw all that chit out the window because you are in a panic mode and you wont even think about the plans. Or it doesnt happen like it should of. So to say they should have done this or that is BS, not PS.